The Army builds a tolerance for violence, she shouted at the crowd. She called our president, according to this report, "a new type of Hitler," pilots "war criminals.". Chiang refused to be extorted, citing his revulsion of the international banking cartel. JANE FONDA: Well, I didnt like it. I was not the kind of mother that I wished I had been to my children. "Claim: POWs were beaten for refusing to cooperate or meet with Fonda during her visit. Fonda consorted with the enemy and made propaganda broadcasts on their behalf. I want you to go home and say, "I'm sorry I got caught doing the wrong thing.". Of course, she was a Vietnamese. Jane Fonda remains unforgiven. [2] While criticizing America, she made laudatory comments about the Soviet Union. Liberals in America's streets "protested" our victories and exulted in our defeats - thus, in patriots' eyes, giving the war a raison d'etre. JANE FONDA: it was a mistake to go, I never wanted to go to any military installations. Her name was Jane Fonda. Its more than being a traitor; millions of Americans felt treasonous during that war. NORTH: Well, all I did was present the facts. And, as she does, each POW palms her a scrap of paper with his Social Security number written on it. Which is precisely why U.S. liberals so vehemently protested U.S. involvement - and that is the only reason - we were destroying their comrades the communists. Copyright 1949-2022 American Heritage Publishing Co. All Rights Reserved. I went to a session at the 2003 Peace History Society Conference in Mt. Troop D, 1st squadron, 4th Cavalry, RVN, 1966-7
Its something very like the worst sort of lovers betrayal, the deep wound that time itself often is powerless to heal. We have no right to attack that country. The chance to remake oneself is a universally acknowledged strength of this Republic, and the Republic itself has done it often enough. And therein lies the difference. The 85-year-old Fonda has had a lengthy career as a Hollywood icon that includes her current turn in the film 80 For Brady, an equally long stint as an outspoken liberal, a fitness craze that began in the infancy of home video, and much more. Her suit was later settled for a reported $20 million. Manywere there to protest the Vietnam War. He didnt live to see it published. Trusted Writing on History, Travel, and American Culture Since 1949. And its about a woman who had a capacity for reinvention that, like Jay Gatsbys, was the more effective for her whole-souled belief in what she devised. If a prisoner tried to escape, it is quite understandable that he would probably be beaten and tortured.. Imagine its the Battle of the Bulge and Betty Grable is up on top of a German tank saying the Yanks are fighting an evil war. Its not a preposterous analogynot as far as the soldiers involved are concerned. Richard Morgan,
NORTH: The real story about Vietnam. Jane Fonda sparked outrage among war veterans when she was pictured sitting on an anti-aircraft gun in 1972 during the Vietnam War, earning her the nickname Hanoi Jane. They landed two months later on 7 May with the 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines. She called our POWs hypocrites and liars and referred to their torture as understandable. Transcription Copyright 2005 eMediaMillWorks, Inc. (f/k/a Federal Document Clearing House, Inc.), which takes sole responsibility for the accuracy of the transcription. Ms. Fonda's actions, however, directly affected helpless individual captives and their families. . This "police action" quickly developed into a full-blown but undeclared war. 1991) Pages 225-229. But the reality of it is, Alan, this is a woman,who I quite frankly feel sorry for. Kelly attacked Fondas Vietnam War history to defend questions about plastic surgery. One of the times it did, Im happy to say, was with Keith Nolan, the author of several books on the war, most recently Ripcord , a superb account of the 101st Airborne in the conflicts last great battle. It was the last day of my two week time there. You know, we can we can scare her, and boy did they try? The POWs who were there have denied that this ever occurred. Rudi Bakhtiar jumped from CNN to Fox News in 2006. Hundreds of Americans had gone to North Vietnam, journalists diplomats, our Secretary of State Ramsey Clark, Vietnam veterans, but I said but a movie star hasnt gone and maybe if I go it will draw more attention, and thats what it did. Over the years, as Fonda reinvented herself as a fitness maven and again a movie star, she apologized many times for the antiaircraft gunphoto. I think that this is rather odd. But he never met Jane Fonda, and he has no idea how the maddening tale attached itself to him. MacArthur soon realized he was expected to win battles but lose the war. I have had my say. Im not you know, they all went to jail. 1990) Pages 121-123. I remember one retired lieutenant colonel describing a conversation he had with an angry trooper about the treasonous behavior of Jane Fonda in the midst of the 1968 Tet Offensive. And the question I have is 50 years later, how do you look back on that particular chapter? I dont know what else to do. CHRIS WALLACE: Who the people in the Nixon administration? Enjoy the rest of the conversation. Its something very like the worst sort of lovers betrayal, the deep wound that time itself often is powerless to heal. She apologized for being on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun site. Jane Fondas first impression of Americas involvement in Vietnam was that it was a just cause. The day anti-Vietnam War protesters tried to levitate the Pentagon. Heres how we saw the article we ran: It is a survey of the singular career of a woman who both drove and was driven by many of the largest social concerns of her era, and who came to embody some of them. Fonda shakes the last hand, then turns to the officer and gives him the fistful of messages. She sided with the Viet Cong as revolutionary liberators. And she travelled to Hanoi at a time when North Vietnamese soldiers were killing Americans. Many Americans traveled to Vietnam on peace delegations to end the war, yet it was Jane Fonda who was captured as a timeless image when she was photographed looking through a Viet Cong anti-aircraft gun. HANNITY: Is Jane Fonda really sorry or just trying to sell her brand new book? Deprived of American assistance, his army bereft of supplies, Chiang Kai-Shek retreated to the island sanctuary of Formosa and dug in. No article of ours gets hundreds of letters, but this one did, very few of them friendly. The answer, of course, is that they won't. Heres the picture that was used to shut shut down American plants, critics, and there were millions of them, called you a Hanoi Jane and said you were a traitor. But she maintains she was not a traitor by speaking out against the war or trying to turn soldiers against it, because she still believesthe U.S. government was lying to them. It evidently didnt. Alisyn Camerota hosted a number of Fox News programs during a 16-year run that ended in 2014. Oh, my God. It was my mistake and I have paid and continue to pay a heavy price for it.. He collects a group of American POWs from their septic dungeons, cleans them up, and has them mustered on parade to show his guest how well his embattled nation treats its prisoners. Yet, despite treason in high places American troops - outnumbered ten-to-one - were winning the war. There's no denying that she defamed POWs by whitewashing the Viet Cong's treatment of them and later calling them liars when they spoke out." Heres the picture that was used to shut shut down American plants, critics, and there were millions of them, called you a Hanoi Jane and said you were a traitor. I dug in my heels. No license is granted to the user of this material except for the user's personal or internal use and, in such case, only one copy may be printed, nor shall user use any material for commercial purposes or in any fashion that may infringe upon Fox News Network, L.L.C. After countless apologies spanning four decades, Breitbarts John Nolte believes Hanoi Jane Fonda should finally be forgiven for her antics in Vietnam.. Fonda has said categorically that she was an adult at the time and called her If I was used, I allowed it to happen. I spent many years its when I made coming home talking to American soldiers, who had been in Vietnam and the things they told me were heartbreaking. In it, she apologizes once again for insulting the men and women who fought in Vietnam. And you were photographed sitting on an anti aircraft gun. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. quote: Fonda was a political activist in the counterculture era during the I mean, the reality is, there were 24,000 American troops on the ground in South Vietnam. During an interview with Barbara Walters 35 years ago, Oscar-winning actress Jane Fonda apologized for being used as propaganda for North Vietnam when we were still fighting North Vietnam. She continued openly to question the accounts of the U.S. government and American POWs, who told devastating stories of the torture they endured at the hands of the North Vietnamese. And the more they tried, the more I. JANE FONDA: I know what Im doing. She said:I have very few regrets. But because of the nature of Vietnam, McNamara said to me, if wed known what we know now it would have we should not have gone out. Legal Statement. If I was Vietnamese, I probably would have tried to do the same thing, you know, but I should not have gone. February 25, 2023 / Jack Marshall. SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Jane Fonda says she is sorry for some of her actions during the Vietnam War. Hows this for a story? One presumably claimed to have been struck by her, while another claimed to have had his confidence betrayed to his Communist captors. Donald Now, I leave it NORTH: Well, yes, as a matter of fact I think she is. And I don't NORTH: Well, that's not going to happen. Due to actions and images some people consider unpatriotic or treasonous, she earned UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How are you, G.I. Which goes to reinforce the old adage that no one is truly a waste of skin. Screw you. Jane didnt make her infamous and idiotic trip to Hanoi until 1972. I'm sorry I hurt you, Alan, and I hope you can forgive me." So I feel that well If I did was good, except that I shouldnt have set gone out to a military place. I dont think they know, Fonda said in a news conference when she returned home. The Roger Ailes and Bill OReilly scandals have cast even some old departures in a new light. Even she had to apologize years later for that gun picture, but not for the rest of it. According to the email she visited Hanoi in 1968. WebIn July of 1972 Jane Fonda went to Hanoi, North Vietnam, for a two-week tour of the country. A Vietnam War photographer captured the bloody Tet offensive. She now hosts "New Day" on CNN. In replying, I discovered that the Good Book notwithstanding, a soft answer turneth away wrath no more than zo percent of the time. I plead with him, You have to be sure those photographs are not published. She now works at Reuters. [2] Peter Collier, The Fondas; A Hollywood Dynasty. And I didnt even think and they sang me a song and Im made me laugh. Pleasant Michigan, where Mary Hersberger (Capital University) and Jerry Kembcke (Holy Cross College) both gave papers on Fonda. NORTH: As a matter of fact, no. The media heaped calumny on U.S. military leadership; presented biased, horrifying scenes depicting "the wanton killing of Vietnamese civilians", and the "degeneracy" of our fighting men and women. She called our POWs hypocrites and liars and referred to their torture as understandable. Jane Fonda was always an outspoken opponent of the Vietnam War. Please, you cant let them be published. Do any right-wingers ever decry the fact that Bush and the conservatives overthrew Aristide because he was a socialists----then invited the Chinese Communists in to our hemisphere? I am trying to show up now.. No article of ours gets hundreds of letters, but this one did, very few of them friendly. I mean, the reality of it is that's not an apology. [5]http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.asp; http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa110399b.htm; http://www.truthminers.com/truth/hanoi_jane.htm; cited on November 24, 2004. During the photo sessions during her visit to Vietnam, she strongly believed were setups and a grave mistake on her part. Those words were written by Michael Benge, a civilian advisor captured by the Viet Cong in 1968 and held as a POW for 5 years. He collects a group of American POWs from their septic dungeons, cleans them up, and has them mustered on parade to show his guest how well his embattled nation treats its prisoners. I sang a song. HANNITY: That's quite often in my case, by the way. Again and again against incredible odds, and at great cost in American casualties, U.S. forces stopped the enemy; but were prevented by President Truman from administering the coup de grace. But now, very quickly, treason is the only crime defined in our Constitution. We have no right to bomb military targets in Vietnam. If a prisoner tried to escape, it is quite understandable that he would probably be beaten and tortured., Also Read: How Jane Fonda Explains 'Hanoi Jane': 'Regret to My Dying Day', Even she had to apologize years later for that gun picture True. "KOREA: Shortly thereafter Truman, with Congress averting its eyes, committed U.S. troops to Korea. To begin with, the title is deliberately misleading: his real point has nothing to do with Jane Fonda. And that we probably couldnt win it not because they werent a fabulous soldiers. However, it was a bit too long, and Dr. Shenkman needed it shortened in the interest of time. NORTH: And mine too, brother, even after 37 years. She was reportedly also an aspirant for a role on "Fox & Friends," the network's morning show. Thus, the U.S.A. deliberately betrayed its former ally Chiang Kai-Shek and gave mainland China to communism. At the time, Hanoi Jane was serenaded with a Communist folk song and was led to a weapon that had shot down many American aircraft, and photos were immediately taken. Here are her comments: Many of our veterans still call her Hanoi Jane thanks to her radio broadcasts, which attempted to shame American troops. As I tell my students when we discuss the proper use of testimony, we probably ought not to listen to Jane Fonda on things dealing with foreign affairs but if our goal is to rid our aging bodies from the ravages of cellulite then Fonda can be considered an authority! Whether Fonda wanted to shame troops is subjective. A young photographer took this harrowing image of the Vietnam War. More than 58,000 Americans died in the war.. Read on. You have "War Stories" coming up. Hundreds of Americans had gone to North Vietnam, journalists diplomats, our Secretary of State Ramsey Clark, Vietnam veterans, but I said but a movie star hasnt gone and maybe if I go it will draw more attention, and thats what it did. My question is, when will people like Fonda and Kerry (unlike Joan Baez) take responsibility for what they have wrought -- the totalitarian system that gave us re-education camps and the boat people? Jane Fonda was on 3 times this week talking about her new book. Considering the admonition about Caesar's wife, perhaps HNN should remove you as an intern. WebFind many great new & used options and get the best deals for Jane Fonda: Prime Time - Walk Out (DVD, 2010) at the best online prices at eBay! She went to tour the countrys dike system, which was rumored to have been intentionally bombed by American forces something the U.S. government to this day forcefully denies. (Later, after 58,152 American dead were just names on a wall, declassified US Navy logs revealed there had been no torpedo attack!). All Rights Reserved, Copyright MAGA Conservatives. And you know, maybe I was set up but I was an adult, its Im gonna take responsibility for it. NORTH (voice-over): Thirty-five hundred Marines came ashore. On the basis of those meetings alone, she proclaimed that American POW's weren't being mistreated, and that any who said they were mistreated werte either liars, or were simply experiencing punishment for their racist treatment and attitude towards their Vietnamese captors. Jane Fonda and the Vietnam War. Youre gonna come through it, okay. Bates (private citizen), What do all you old sober sides make of this thesis? I mean, he realized that . 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However, when my credibility is challenged, I will respond. I agree with TheWrap's Terms of Service and Privacy Policy and provide my consent to receive marketing communications from them. Especially considering that the Republican Party has obviously now been captured by the same forces (the 'Illuminati', hehehe). OLIVER NORTH, HOST, "WAR STORIES": Actually, she's not really apologizing. I get up, and as I start to walk back to the car with the translator, the implication of what has just happened hits me. After we published Peter Braunsteins article on Jane Fonda in our July/August issue, perhaps 60 people sent me this story. Fonda said that whileshe may have been tricked into taking the picture, The buck stops here. ( New York: G.P. On campus, she was pushing her movement to turn U.S. soldiers into pacifists. There was a real Colonel Carrigan, and he was a POW in Vietnam. We now see a pattern of sedition/treason. Bates. Lee said she still loves being a journalist and thatshehas"some really big ideas on how to better serve you in that particular arena" without Fox News. quote: Fondas transformation from actress to activist began several years earlier. In July of 1972, she made two trips to She said It is possible it was a setup, I will never know. Why? . When Rockefeller said what he said about the Cultural Revolution (in an Op Ed that I read long ago, attesting to its existence), he was addressing the Communist system as a Fascist system with potential for realizing corporate/banker control much more than as a "Marxist" system. War materiel, shipped via the
True. Nobody remembers, nobody cares. Legal Statement. Again the secret policy of the financiers was: "containment of communism" while disallowing an American victory. and how good she feels in her 70s. America. The Ms. , we thought, would signal a bit of ironic distance from the broad, ingenu- ous affection contained in Miss America. Dr. Rockefeller certainly did not defend Communism as a "Jewish" system, since it is the Hebrew Bible that was the basis of our Common Law, and hence much of our Constitutional Order. I mean, it depends on what you want to know. Id been getting pretty sour about the incensed patriots who would curse me and my family and confidently speak on behalf of all veterans living and dead, and the Great Jehovah and the Continental Congress, to declare I was a disgrace to America for running that storythen conclude by smugly assuring me they would never read it. Also Read: Megyn Kelly Trashed by Rosie O'Donnell as 'Spineless Wanna Be Barbie' for Jane Fonda Spat. Halyburton told him that the POW's had tried to debunk them even though they regarded Fonda as an unsympathetic figure. If you must know, my original draft did make reference to the one true story that you mentioned. Ramsey Clark went to Hanoi during the war. Megyn Kelly lit into Jane Fonda on Monday, highlighting the behavior that earned the actress the nickname Hanoi Jane while defending the time last fall when she questioned Fonda about plastic surgery. ED GRUMMETT, USMC: The night before we made the landing at Chu Yuan (ph) we were listening to Hanoi Hannah and how they were going to annihilate us on the beach. What followed was a long-lasting wave of criticism and international outrage that earned Fonda the nickname " She also spoke about her infamous protests. Even so, I'm going to keep an eye open to purchase one of the urinal mats with her photograph depicted upon it. These men were bombing and strafing and napalming the country, she said. He was Americas most famous pediatrician. The great General Douglas MacArthur drove the North Koreans, led by Red Chinese
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Thats what made me laugh. NORTH: These are the things that this woman did, and she has not apologized. It meant re-taking the same bloody ground over and over again. I mean, he realized that. The cover called her Ms. Kellysaid she was among those at Fox News sexually harassed by Ailes. Megyn Kelly ended her 12-year run with Fox News in early 2017 in exchange for a weekday show at NBC. She was young and famous at the time, maybe the Iraqi insurgents could get some of the present crop of empty headed celebrities, Britney Spears perhaps, to pose next to those Muslim mopes in robes and head towels while they aim their weapons. Her attackers renewed an old strike against the image of an actress who grew up as the daughter of the All-American Henry Fonda, yet became synonymous with the various rebellions of the Sixties. It never happened. Email us. Heres what she said in 2011: In my anger at the torture story that was being allowed to spread, at how the entire situation was being manipulated, I made a mistake I deeply regret. Many of our veterans still call her Hanoi Jane thanks to her radio broadcasts: True, but she doesnt just have the nickname because of the radio broadcasts. Urban Legends story then identifies the POW and gives some quotes about his treatment by the NVA. Content and Programming Copyright 2005 Fox News Network, L.L.C. tips@mediaite.com. As anyone who knew or worked with me in those years knows my heart has always been with the soldiers. Since the dawn of the Internet and a spate of anti-Fonda websites, there have been many fabrications and exaggerations regarding her actions, but her photo ops and press conferences to "give aid and comfort to the enemy" are not and never were in question. 5:15 After numerous apologies over four decades, its time to let Hanoi Jane Fonda off the hook for Vietnam. I will never know. And you know, maybe I was set up but I was an adult, its Im gonna take responsibility for it. Forget? And, you know, I think they thought, Oh, shes this white privilege rich, famous daughter of all of that stuff. In fact, when the Tet Offensive broke, Jane Fonda was the featured pinup girl in that months issue of Leatherneck , the official publication of the Marines. There is no doubt these treasonous no-win US wars were meant to disillusion the American nation into accepting loss of sovereignty and one world government." And you were photographed sitting on an anti aircraft gun. I mean, the fact is, there's no statute on treason, by the way. She said in a 1973 interview elaborating on the hypocrites and liars statement that it would be understandable for the North Vietnamese to torture POWs who tried to escape. But Jane Fonda: Cancel my subscription!, In replying, I discovered that the Good Book notwithstanding, a soft answer turneth away wrath no more than zo percent of the time. Why are people more angry at Jane Fonda that they are against, say, Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon, the people really responsible? Kiran Chetry was a Fox News host from 2001 to 2007. They called it FTA, which they said stood for Free the Army, but it was also a not-so-subtle nod to the expression f the Army.. I should have been clearer that my anger back then was at the Nixon Administration. Perhaps most dramatically, in March 1973, the Maryland state legislature held a hearing to have Fonda and her films barred from the state. Nevertheless, there are Vietnam veterans out there who served in the war zone before 1969 who are convinced that Jane Fonda was in cahoots with the Commies during their own tours. As the war raged, the one-time blonde bombshell cut her naturally brown hair short, trading sex appeal for liberal activism and rebranding herself as a political crusader against the war. It is nothing more and nothing less than the full culmination of Greco-Roman Humanism as it has defined itself throughout the thousands of years. I am assured it will be taken care of. We're trained. . This thread gives me a great chance to ask veterans a question that has always bothered me. In 1972, Fonda toured North Vietnam, where she spoke against U.S. military policy in the country. If even one of them were true, it would change the entire focus of my article. In her 2005 memoir, My Life So Far, Fonda wrote of the infamous photo this way: Still,for some veterans, no apology from Fonda will ever change their views of her as an adversaryof America and the troops during wartime.
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